reblogging for the excellent gif usage.
Florida: where people try harder to not hit sandhill cranes than they do pedestrians.
how the FUCK do you justify not giving a human food, shelter, and medical care because of “a religious belief”???????? where the fuck in the bible does it say “if someone’s gay they don’t deserve the bare essentials necessary to live”??????
Shout out to all the lucky gals that feel nothing when they’re on their periods while I feel like a fully grown dinosaur on a motorbike is trying to pop a wheelie right out of my vagoo.
I want her to come back soon but not TOO soon okay.
[I don’t like the torture scenes on “Enterprise”. I think they destroy everything that Star Trek is about.]
I disagree. I think it exposes the blindness the original series’s had. Okay, humans have seemed to move past violence and hostility (a little), but that doesn’t mean other cultures have on other planets. It was realistic as much as it was to sell a television show. Enterprise was dark, as it should have been, because space exploration isn’t all tribbles and occasional fights with Klingons. It’s a fucking mess, and along with other things that needed to be exploited and exposed about the original concepts, I’m glad that Enterprise exposed this.
THIS. This is why I was able to relate to Enterprise in a way that I’d never been able to relate to the other series: the characters looked and acted more like the humans I know.
I’m with both of you on this. I disagree with the confession most strongly. There are many many things that I could have thought about that may have made issues, but these scenes were not them. Not when Jon does it, and not when the other species do either. I actually found it was just another aspect that made it more realistic and made it easier to connect to.
It was hardly as if this was an issue that only happens in Enterprise, DS9 and Voyager both had similar scenes, DS9 had considerably more than Enterprise.
I watch Star Trek for the exact reason they they don’t act like the humans I know. Humans can and should be better. I’ve never been as put off as when Archer tortured others in a fit if revenge.
This was happening while the Iraq War was going on and Americans WERE torturing people. And we were supposed to look up to Arrcher, like we looked up to Bush? Fuck that.
That is not Star Trek.
Okay but what you’re missing is that this wasn’t TOS, TNG, Voyager era where people had become more passive. This was the first Earth ship. They were going to stumble and make mistakes.
Gene Roddenberry had the vision of bringing all the problematic shit we humans do to the public eye. You’re right, we were, and still are, torturing people. Instead of being a bunch of fucking blind sheep, it was a good thing to show people what humans were capable of. You weren’t supposed to look up to Archer. You were supposed to see the social, emotional, and basically horrible things that terrorist actions had done to humans. The whole fucking season is a reflection of what happened during the “War on Terror”. I can break it down for you if you don’t understand, because it’s really quite easy.
That is entirely Roddenberry’s vision for Star Trek. Expose the problems with humans and hope to god we grow some brains in time to fucking correct it.
I’m perfectly aware of the season’s correlations to the War on Terror. Especially since I brought it up first.
This is two different versions of what humans are capable of. Being better, and being worse, than what we are.
When the original TOS aired, it aired in a world of horrid racism and brutal war that was tearing the US apart. What did Roddenberry do? He should us how humans COULD BE. The BETTER way to go about things, to resolve differences, to RISE ABOVE human nature. The same ethos was followed with TNG, VOY, and challenged in DS9.
Here with ENT were have a world being torn apart by war and racism, again. What does ENT do? Remind us of the better way? Remind us that we can meet aggression not with violence, but with diplomacy, and that this is not “passive?”
No. Enterprise became just like any other show, anything else on TV, reminding us of just how BAD we are. That in centuries to come we will not have grown. Instead of being a beacon of what humanity can aspire to be in the most difficult of times, Enterprise was only a shallow reflection to the world it was made in, and Archer nothing more than another captain in the War on Terror.
It’s so pointless to argue with people who have no concept of interesting plot progression and character development. And did you even watch the other series? Torture was used in others. DS9. Voyager. At least Archer regretted the shitty choices he made to the point where he was scary depressed and could have potentially killed himself. Janeway and Sisko didn’t bat an eye.
Sunshine, unicorns, and rainbow farts in every plotline of every episode isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. Sorry you couldn’t handle the brutal truth that Star Fleet really isn’t this great organization and that we’re still a bunch of assholes and that doesn’t change that quickly. If it wasn’t for people demanding Enterprise be just like it’s predecessors with stupid, frilly, nonsense episodes it could have been something really eye opening and fantastic. Instead, people who were afraid of the true nature of humanity demanded to see us painted in a pretty picture.
Yay, ignorance and social blindness.
I haven’t seen enterprise yet, but this makes me want to see it even more. I enjoyed deep space nine BECAUSE it felt like they explored the darker sides of people more than the other shows. I didn’t realize ent was so deep. That’s awesome.